East
Cleveland had six elementary schools.
The one I attended was Prospect.
The others were Chambers, Mayfair, Rozelle, Superior, and
Caledonia. We attended elementary school
for seven years (K -6). Graduation from
elementary school was a major milestone in a student’s life. My graduation occurred in June of 1952. In September of 1952 I moved up to Kirk
Junior High School, where I spent the next three years (grades 7 – 9).
A New Experience
I and my
fellow elementary school graduates looked forward to attending Kirk with great
anticipation and some anxiety. We, of
course, had heard stories from our older peers, who had moved on before
us. One thing we were told about was the
social structure based upon grade level.
Seventh graders were “Flats”, eighth graders were “Sharps” and ninth
graders were “Big Wheels”. Based upon
the talk from my peers, I fully anticipated a certain amount of hazing and was
pleasantly surprised when it didn’t occur.
There were several
significant differences between elementary and junior high school. The first was that Kirk was a bigger school
with a larger student body. It included
all 7th through 9th grade students from all six
elementary schools. Instead of a class
of 34 sixth graders, I had a 7th grade class of almost 200. This alone broadened my horizons.
Since there
was only one junior high in East Cleveland, most of us had a longer walk to and
from school. All the elementary schools
were neighborhood schools to which students could easily walk. I lived only one block from Prospect School. I walked to Kirk from my home on Shaw Avenue during
my first year at Kirk. We moved to Nela
View in the Caledonia area for grades eight and nine. Both of those homes were one mile from Kirk. I
think most students walked to Kirk. Some
rode bicycles and a few took a Cleveland Transit System bus. There were no school busses. On the rare day that I decided to ride my
bike, I left it in a special bicycle shed in the back parking lot of the
school. The shed was locked before the
first bell and unlocked at the end of school.
A Wonderful Building
Another
difference we encountered at Kirk was the size and beauty of the place. The school was built in 1932 and named after William
H. Kirk, the long time superintendent of East Cleveland Schools. The architectural style could be described as
Georgian. Kirk was located on Terrace
Road west of Lee Road. Terrace Road runs
along the base of the hill which leads to the Heights area and is the top of a glacial beach one block south of Euclid Avenue. The school was actually built on land donated
by the Rockefeller family to form Forest Hill Park. Kirk was carved out of the side
of the hill at the top of which is Forest Hill Park.
The building
itself was beautiful and efficiently designed.
It had a large three story main section with two large sections on
either side. Those side sections were
attached to the center section by one story connecting sections. The connecting sections had classrooms while
the two large sections on either end contained an auditorium on the West side
and the gymnasium on the East.
The size of
the building was awesome to new students.
Unlike our elementary school experience, we were given a schedule of
classes and needed to find our way around that large building. The challenge was especially great at the
beginning of the first semester. Adding
to the problem was the fact that some stairways were up only and others were
down only. The story was told of a new
seventh grader who, when asking an upperclassman for directions, was directed
to the boiler room. Although that story
may have been a myth, I studied the printed floor plans in our student guide to
ensure that it didn’t happen to me.
Classrooms
of various sizes were scattered through the building. You might start out in one of the single
story connectors between the main section and the auditorium and then go to a
class held on one of the upper floors of the main section. You only had a few minutes to make the
trek. An extreme example would occur if
one of your classes was physical education and you needed to take a quick
shower after class and still make it to a class in some remote part of the
school. All rooms were remote from the
gym, because it was at the farthest end of the building. This was less of a problem if your gym class
was the last one of the day. However, I
remember walking home after school on cold winter afternoons when my wet hair
froze. I could have avoided that; but the
wearing of hats was not considered to be “cool” and appearing to be “cool” was
all important to most of us back then.
There was a
large cafeteria at the rear of the third floor.
Everyone ate at school. You
either bought lunch in the cafeteria or brought a brown bag lunch from
home. I usually brought my lunch and
sometimes supplemented it with some cafeteria food such as french fries. The problem with fries was that everyone
wanted you to share them. I learned to
put pepper on my fries to make them less desirable. To this day I still put pepper on my
fries. Lunch periods were scattered
through the middle of the day. By
handling us in shifts, the system was quite efficient.
There were
two large study halls on the second floor.
They were across the hall from each other in rooms 208 and 209. I think that room 208 was the slightly larger
of the two. Each study hall had an
assigned teacher for each period. Students
were scheduled into a study hall at times when they weren’t on your lunch
period or attending another class. The
idea was that you use study hall to prepare for upcoming classes or get a head
start on your homework. It was possible
to get out of study hall to attend an approved extracurricular activity.
Student Life
This is a
good time to point out that the school was a closed building. You were required to be in the building and
in your homeroom by a certain time. You needed
special permission to leave the building before the end of the school day. There was a system of hall monitors and hall
passes to ensure that all students were where they were supposed to be and
doing what they were supposed to do. You
were scheduled to be someplace each hour of the school day.
The day
started in your homeroom. My homeroom
was the study hall room 209. My homeroom
teacher was Mr. Shepherd, who also taught wood shop. The purpose of homeroom was to take
attendance and hear announcements over a loud speaker. This didn’t take long and after those
administrative details, you were off following your schedule. The homeroom group stayed together for their
entire time at Kirk, although the group was modified from time to time by students
coming and leaving during that three year period. Some students joined or left the group after
moving to or from East Cleveland.
Others transferred to Kirk after attending Catholic schools.
You never
knew who would be in each scheduled class until you arrived for the first time. Sometimes you would meet the same people in
more than one class; but that wasn’t guaranteed. The only thing with some level of certainty
was that all students in the class were in the same grade. This could be good or bad depending on
whether you were an introvert or an extrovert.
In most cases it helped expand our social horizons. I made many new friends as a result of
this.
In the
spirit of making new friends and keeping the old, I graduated from Shaw with
several kids, who had been in my kindergarten class at Prospect School. On a similar note, a few of those kids also
went to Western Reserve University when I was there. I have kept in touch with some of them and
saw many of them at my 50th class reunion in 2008. There is also an active Shaw High Lunch Bunch
which gets together three time a year.
One
important part of life at Kirk was the hall locker. Each student was assigned a hall locker and
given a combination lock. To make things
more complicated we also had assigned locks and lockers in the gym locker
room. The locker was where you stored
your coats, hats, lunch and books. It
was usually the first place you went in the morning and the last place you went
in the afternoon. If you brought your
lunch to school, it required a stop there at lunch time. It was a challenge to remember the location
of your locker and the combination of the lock.
To this day I occasionally have the classic anxiety dream in which I am
at school and can’t remember where my locker is located or the combination of
my lock. A quick entrance and exit from
your locker was sometimes desired. We had
a trick for that. It was called setting
your lock. To do that you would run the
first two numbers of the combination then stop and leave the locker. When you returned all you had to do was turn
the lock to the third number and open it.
Actually, that wasn’t such a good idea.
At some point I was visiting another school. On a whim I went up to a random locker and
turned the dial of the lock to the left while tugging on the lock. In about 5 or 6 tugs I had it open. Lock setting was more common than I thought
and not very secure.
What We Studied
We had a
large selection of courses some of which were required and others which could
be chosen based upon our interests. The
major distinction between the courses was whether they were college prep or vocational. Required courses included english, arithmetic,
science, social studies and physical education.
Arithmetic was the same for all seventh and eighth graders. In the ninth grade students had a choice
between algebra and industrial arithmetic.
A test was given to determine the
student’s math aptitude. I am not sure
how I scored on the aptitude test; but I ended up choosing industrial
arithmetic. As it turned out, I switched
to algebra after one semester of industrial arithmetic. Algebra was a prerequisite for the advanced
math I later took in high school. I
frankly believe that ninth grade is too early to ask a student or his parents
to decide whether he would be going to college or pursuing a vocational career.
For those
students who preferred a vocational education Kirk offered a variety of
introductory courses. Those included
industrial arts, mechanical drawing, metals, printing and woodworking. All boys were encouraged to select one or two
vocational courses. In my case, I chose
metals and printing. The skills I
learned in printing are very obsolete now.
They included typesetting and running a printing press. Even though those skills are not applicable
today, I have an appreciation of how it was done at the time. Typesetting was done by placing individual
letters upside down and backwards in a handheld device. I’ll never forget one of my bosses, Estal
Sparlin, Director of the Citizens League of Cleveland. He had been a typesetter early in life and he
had the ability to read documents upside down and backwards. He told me he discovered a lot by reading
documents which had been left on desks of those he was interviewing. In metals shop I made a type of clothes
hanger that fits over the top of a door and a small metal desk calendar
holder. I still have the calendar
holder, which is sitting right in front of me as I am writing this article.
Girls were
offered courses in home economics, clothing and foods. The foods course was also chosen by some
boys. I’m not sure why, but I signed up
for it. That may have led to my current
interest in cooking, which I consider to be a very satisfying and creative
process. At that time it was unusual for
boys to have an interest in cooking. My
own father would have starved if he didn’t have my mother to cook for him. That certainly is not true today. Most of the famous chefs are men. One member of my class at Kirk was Arthur
Rondini. His family owned the popular
Rondini’s Restaurant in East Cleveland.
Arthur went on to become a very successful chef at such places as the
Blue Grass Restaurant and the Tangier Restaurant in Akron.
Other
elective courses available included creative dramatics, newswriting, junior
business training, and art. If you were
interested in music, you could take courses in music, chorus, band or
orchestra. One of my major regrets in
life is that I didn’t take advantage of the opportunity to participate in the
band. I ended up taking trumpet lessons
15 years later at the age of 28 and went on to become the leader of a big band
for the past 45 years. www.smartsetband.com Many of my band
members are people about my age who played in high school or college and are
coming back to it after retirement. I
just got a later start then they did; but I now know how much fun it can be to
play music in a band.
One last
course to mention was called personal fitness. All students were required to
take this. I’m not sure whether the
requirement originated with the State of Ohio or the East Cleveland Board of
Education. It was taken in the ninth
grade and each class was made up of all boys or all girls. It was universally known as PF. In retrospect I think it was an early attempt
to help adolescent boys and girls deal with the raging hormones and other changes
which were occurring in their bodies.
There still is a vigorous debate about how much sex education should be
taught in the school versus the home. If
the truth be known, I believe that most sex education occurred on the street,
divulged by one’s older peers. I don’t
remember much sex education occurring in PF.
Most of PF dealt with fairly mundane stuff, such as why cleanliness is necessary
and how one should properly take a shower.
My teacher in PF was Mr. George Huxel, who was also the Dean of
Boys. He later moved up to Shaw High and
became the Dean of Boys there.
Extracurricular Activities
There were
many opportunities for students to expand their horizons outside of regular
classwork. Those included participation
in sports, music, drama and creative writing to name a few. Students could play on the various sports
teams or serve as sports boosters. The
latter were sometimes called “athletic supporters”. There were opportunities for participation in
plays and music performances including band, orchestra and chorus. Those who did not perform in the activities
were able to enjoy them as a spectator or audience member. Periodic all school assemblies were held to
promote those activities. Student
leadership skills were developed through a system of student government.
All these
activities and more were reported to the student body in the school newspaper,
“The Kirkonian”. I am fortunate to have
almost all the monthly Kirkonian issues published during my three years at
Kirk. This is the result of my being an archivist at heart. Some people would call it hording. The
articles were designed to keep us informed about what was going on in the
school. There were feature stories about
teachers and reports about the activities of the Principal, Dr. Myers. Most of the articles were feature stories
about students and their interests and activities. Those would usually take the form of stories
about students in a particular homeroom.
There were columns on athletic events and music activities, such as
concerts. The quality of the writing
varied but a surprising amount of it was very good. I wonder how many of those on the Kirkonian
staff went on to careers in journalism.
The Faculty and Administration
Unlike
elementary school teachers, those at Kirk were specialized each teaching a
specific subject. In any given year a
student would encounter several different teachers based upon his course of
study. I don’t know why, but I don’t
remember many of the teachers I had during my stay at Kirk. However a few of them were memorable. Some of them came with a reputation. I don’t know who told me to avoid Miss Boone
the English teacher. She was a no
nonsense disciplinarian, who taught me seventh grade English. After being warned about her, I had a great
deal of anxiety when I learned she would by my teacher. I don’t remember having a problem with her
and I had a knack of keeping a low profile and out of trouble. Sadly, Miss Alma Boone passed away at the end of my
second year at Kirk. I only learned in
her obituary that she was more than the stern faced disciplinarian I knew from
English class. She was a real human
being with many interests outside of her teaching including world affairs,
theater and dramatic arts as well as college football. In retrospect I wish I had known her and more
of my other teachers better. I also
wonder what Miss Boone would think about my writing today.
It’s funny
what you remember about some teachers.
One of my arithmetic teachers was Mr. Lou Chulick. I don’t remember anything about the
arithmetic he taught. However, I have a
clear memory of two things which came up during his class. He once told us he was always impressed with
the sign on one of the businesses in the area, which he passed on his way to
work. It was on the building of the
Kiener Coal Company and said Keener People Buy Kiener Coal. On another occasion he led a class discussion
about the best way to travel from East Cleveland to downtown. He said there were two schools of thought on
that subject. One was to go north on
Eddy Road and take the Shoreway. The
other was to take Chester Road all the way from University Circle. Mr. Chulick argued in favor of Chester
Road. My family always took the Shoreway. Mr. Chulick convinced me; and to this day I
take Chester instead of the Shoreway when going downtown.
The
administration of Kirk was led by Dr. L.L. Myers, Principal. Dr. Myers was a well-respected school
administrator. During his time at Kirk
he also served on a six-man Committee of the National Association of Secondary
School Principals on Junior High School Education. Dr. Myers was assisted by a Dean of Boys and
a Dean of Girls. These two Deans handled
student counseling and discipline issues.
I didn’t know much about the Dean of Girls and I had little direct
contact with the Dean of Boys. There
were two Deans during my time at Kirk.
The first, Mr. William Galberach, was Dean while I was in seventh
grade. He was replaced by Mr. George
Huxel when Mr. Galberach moved up to Shaw High to teach geometry and coach
baseball.
On the
subject of discipline I have to bring up the issue of corporal punishment. There was much discussion among the boys
concerning the paddles used by the Dean to punish bad actors. They were said to have holes drilled into
them to reduce wind resistance so they would hurt more. The number of swats one received was said to
be determined by the seriousness of the infraction. I never saw the paddle and I’m not sure I
knew anyone who did. I sometimes thought
paddling was a myth. Whether it really
happened or not, it was probably somewhat of a deterrent to bad behavior just
thinking that it might be true. The real
punishment for bad behavior included consultation with parents. In the most severe cases suspension or
expulsion from school were required.
The Deans
had more to deal with than incorrigible boys or girls needing discipline. Adolescence is a tough time for many
kids. It was important for all students
to have an authority figure with whom they felt comfortable discussing their problems. I’m sure that Mr. Galberach and Mr. Huxel
were able to help many troubled students during their time at Kirk. Some classroom teachers also had a positive
impact on students with whom they had developed close relationships.
The Kirk
philosophy of education was summarized by Dr. Myers in a speech to the Kirk PTA
on March 11, 1953. The speech was quoted
in the student newspaper, The Kirkonian.
The title of his speech was, “Are Sharps and Flats People?” He held that the function of the school is
three-fold as follows: 1. Elementary – to develop fundamental learning and to
change a largely selfish child into a social one; 2. Junior High – To develop
basic learnings, broaden curriculum, discover strong abilities and weaknesses,
and aid the child to grow as a citizen; 3. Senior High – To develop strength
and knowledge to help the child become a useful and self-sufficient person,
aware of his duties as a citizen and his responsibilities as a potential parent.
Thinking
back, I now know that many things occurred in my life during those three years
I was at Kirk, all of which prepared me for my move to Shaw High and the life
which followed. However, not all of those things
happened at Kirk. Those were times when
my horizons expanded and many things outside my immediate family became
influential in my life. Those included
work, church, and an expanded peer group in addition to my experiences at
Kirk. I believe that Kirk played an
important role in making me the person I am today and I look back fondly on my
experiences there.
Here are two copies of Kirkonians from my time at Kirk:
Mr Robert: This commentary on Kirk jr. high was every bit as good as the rest of your E.Cleveland material. I got to kirk in the fall of 54. Went to Rozelle. My only credible contribution was I operated the P.A. system for DR. Myers in the 9th grade. I do have some incrediable stories from my era. Ms. Kinestric for science and working for Joe & Hy Tobin. That young man you named Glen was Mr. Glen Noble. He decorated the windows and any other thing the Tobins needed. Glen was the nicest young man you'd ever want to meet. He & ms. Elly talk me how to run the soda fountain counter. Boy do I have stories about that 2 years...good stuff. I worked for some time at the Gulf gas station next to shaw school on Euclid Ave. and at Freds Bakery on Noble rd. I guess I'll dog it off here. Don't hesitate to call. I'd be honored to contribute more...JERRY RESCHKE SHAW class of 1960.
ReplyDeleteJerry: Thanks for you comments. We both agree that East Cleveland was a wonderful place to grow up. Keep reading and sharing your own memories. Bob
DeleteI so enjoyed this! I was a happy young girl growing up in E. Cleveland on Milan Ave. and going to Chambers! I spent two years at Kirk before family moved. My two older sisters graduated from Shaw. It was a long walk up the hill but we didn't think anything of it! Wearing middies was the big thing and how we could disguise them! I am desperately seeking an old friend with no luck. She graduated from Shaw ('58)and went to Kirk also..from Chambers. Her name is Marie Long. I don't have her married name and am hoping someone can help me out! Thank you again for the great memories told here!
ReplyDeletePeg: Thanks for reading and commenting. I'm not sure if I have commented on the dress code yet. You are right about the middies and all the ways in which they could be personalized. About your friend Marie Long, it is always harder to track down girls, because they change names after marriage. Hopefully someone who knows Marie will read your comment and get in touch with her. Send me an email at robert@dreifort.com and I will contact you if hear anything about Marie. Keep reading. Bob
ReplyDeleteAllow me to confirm the paddling! I got swatted several times during my illustrious career at both Kirk and Shaw. Huxel and Chulick both got me at Kirk and my very own HR teacher, Neil Skinner, nailed me during swim class wearing nuthin' but a Speedo (ouch on many levels!) Great memories! Oh and what's missing these days is that level of corporal punishment in the schools today. Thanks for your wonderful blog!
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment Andy. You must have been in school about the same time as me. I knew all of those teachers you mentioned. I would appreciate hearing more of your East Cleveland memories. If you would like to share them, you may email me at robert@dreifort.com or call me. I'm in the Cleveland phone directory.
ReplyDeletethanks for the memories. I was in Miss Pyle's Home room her family ran Hough bakery. I can only criticize 2 things about the experienced at Kirk Jr high and alter Shaw high : 1) the Guidance counselor, Mr. Worcester seemed to emphasize the small liberal arts colleges ,e.g. Wabash, DePauw, Butler, Oberlin, Otterbein, Wittenberg, Kenyon, Denison, Haverford, etc., To me most of them are "finishing schools" for rich kids like former VP Dan Quayle that know when the graduate they will work for Mommy and Daddy or get into politics. anyone who wants to go on to grad school or professional school should go to some other type of school like a large university even a good state school like Ohio state. 2) the Physics course taught at Shaw high the so called PSSC physic program, I recall even Dr Myers at Kirk mentioned about how good it was. problem is that it did not prepare those of us who went on to scientific schools. I hear from The national association of High school physics teachers that some 94% of them DO NOT recommend that PSSC type of book . I would rather have a standard basic course taught like " Resnick and Halliday or " Sears and Zermansky than that PSSC course. other than that the experience at Kirk and Shaw was good. the Foreign languages ( I had German) was rated highly by secondary school standards. I still remember the UP and DOWN stairs and the Movies shown at lunch time I remember the Frito potato chips sold at the cafeteria . I remember the Giant Thanksgiving lunch that cost 75 cents ( in 1962-1963) I remember
ReplyDeleteMrs.. Hilty , English 8th grade in 1962-1963,
Mrs.. Leonetti, geography in 1962-1963
Mrs. Prouty, homeroom for my sister 1961-1963 taught Home economics
Mr. Banks, American history, 8th grade, 1962-1963
all the best thanks for listening to me
Dear Expert: It looks as if you are about 10 years younger than me. When I was at Kirk and Shaw Mr Worcester was a Phys Ed teacher and coach. I took the Physics course in 1957 and the teacher was Don Silberger. He was fairly young and new to teaching. As I recall, he taught us how to think and use the scientific method more than the details of Physics. That turned out to be good for me, since I didn't end up with a scientific career. I see by your profile that you are a man of science. Congratulations.
ReplyDeleteI just found a picture of my father in the 1935? Kirk Jr High state championship band. They wore berets and the building looked awesome and my dad was one of 2 bass players. Very sharp looking band. Sorry to hear it is already gone. Dad (Robert M. Paterson) grew up in Cleveland and was also very active in the YMCA there. I enjoyed reading the blog. Photo on my facebook page
ReplyDeletePamela: Thanks for reading my blog and commenting. Your dad must have been one of the first students at Kirk after it was built. I have sent you a friend request on Facebook.
ReplyDeleteOmg... Bless you, this is awesome!!! Always wanted to know the history.. C/O 80\81.
ReplyDeleteCarol Blair: Thanks for reading and posting your comment. I will try to keep these memories coming. Keep reading.
ReplyDeleteBob
I am trying to find a picture in a yearbook of my friend's mother who she has never seen. Her mother was Jacqueline Marie Betzmer born August of 1926. She is shown on the 1940 E. Cleveland census with her parents Stephen and Grace Betzmer. From what I can determine she must have gone to W.H. Kirk Middle School about 1938 to 1941. Not sure when she entered 1st grade so can't determine exactly what years she was in which grades. She apparently did not graduate high school because when she was just 16 she was married. Jacqueline adopted my friend out to a couple when she was about 8 months old. My friend was born in 1944. We have found all info on Jacqueline but my friend would love to see what her mother Jacqueline looked like. If anyone on this site can help her it would be great.
ReplyDeleteI am a distant relative of Grace Betzmer, née Collins, your friend's grandmother. I am doing research on the whole Collins line. If I find any pictures I will be sure to let you know.
DeleteI am in search of any info and pictures of Jacqueline Marie Betzmer, born 8/2/1926, for the same great friend as Anonymous, message dated 2/12/2018. If anyone has any info or a pic, it would mean the world to Jackie's daughter to finally have the missing piece to her life's puzzle. We have found record that her first marriage was not until 1944 so she may have attended Shaw? I will search there as well. PLEASE any and all info and pics would be greatly appreciated - please contact me at rsavage3@hotmail.com or 540.325.7971. Thank you! and Thank you Robert Dreifort for this amazing page! History well shared and preserved!
DeleteThanks for reading my blog. I'm afraid that the only picture in a yearbook would be in a Shaw High School Shuttle. She would have to have been enrolled at Shaw for at least one year. That could have been as early as age 15. You can find Shaw High School Shuttle yearbooks on line at the East Cleveland Public Library. Good luck with your search.
ReplyDeleteTrying to recall if my business class teacher’s name was Mrs. Huber or Uber. Does anyone recall? Thanks so much
ReplyDeleteI remember seeing Kirk for the 1st time, I was in awe, thought it was the most beautiful school I had seen, was new to EC schools in 8th grade coming from a Catholic elementary. It was a pretty easy transition since Kirk students had come from so many different elementary schools.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment. I think Kirk was my favorite building of the three I attended in East Cleveland. Prospect and Shaw HS were great buildings as well. The difference was that Kirk was a complete and beautiful building from its start in 1935. The other buildings had been added on to over the years. Each building was memorable.
ReplyDeleteMr Dreifort, I just happened upon your blog while doing some Google traveling. While I enjoy your thoughts and memories of Kirk, I had a very different experience while there. I attended Kirk in 1970 - 71. I'm sure you'll remember that the country was in a lot of turmoil then. Vietnam War, protests, school integration, etc. We lived at the end of Charles street. I recall the National Guard had to come to Shaw to keep order. We witnessed the gas station across the street get robbed. These are examples of what was happening in the outside world. Inside the school was just as hard for a 13 year old Caucasian boy. I was scared everyday. I had any money in my pocket taken almost every day. I was hit, pushed and harassed every day. I could on, but you get the idea. My mom didn't make me go back to the school the last two weeks because I was ambushed on the road behind the school and beaten up. I don't mean to get into a "poor me" essay, just trying to relate the experience I had. I wish I could have experienced the great memories you all are sharing. We moved from Cleveland that summer to a small town in Illinois, talk about culture shock. Again, I enjoy your writing and I hope you continue. Mike
ReplyDeleteMike: I appreciate your comments. Your experience in East Cleveland was quite different from mine. When you were there, I had moved to Cleveland Heights. However I heard stories like yours from relatives and others who were still in East Cleveland. One of my cousins transferred to Lutheran East High School as a result of experiences similar to yours. That was not uncommon in those days. I hope your experiences after East Cleveland were better and that you have had a good life. My memories are of East Cleveland as it existed from 1940 to 1963. At that time it was an ideal community and a great place to grow up.
ReplyDeletemeaning of myself went to Kirk Junior High School back in the 70s where I believe I join the track team and the 440 relay record that was held by four guys back in the 50s my Relay Team broke that record and nobody has broken our record the school was tore down unfortunately it was a beautiful building
ReplyDeleteThanks for reading my blog and posting your comment. Kirk sure was a special place. If it had been better maintained it could still have been here today.
DeleteMy grandmother used to take tickets at the booth for the movie during the lunch hours I went there for a year in 1952 is I remember my homeroom teacher was Miss Park and I had mrs. Scott for history the rest of my teachers I don't remember
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment. I entered seventh grade at Kirk in September 1952 and graduated at the end of ninth grade in June 1955. I may have met you back in 1952. However I met a lot of new people that year. East Cleveland had six elementary schools and the seventh grade had students from all six. Those were the people I spent the next six years with before graduating from Shaw in 1958.
ReplyDeleteGreetings fellow Kirk attendees. I really enjoyed this blog on this wonderful school. I attended Kirk in 81 and 82. Then they only had 7th and 8th grade there and Shaw High picked up at 9th - 12th. I too experienced the paddle one time and that was one time too many. I too heard of "the holes" being in the paddle but when I had to face it, there were no holes (thank Heavens) but it served it purpose and I was never in trouble again. But the teacher I remember the most was Mr. Debartelomeo. I was really fascinated by his name in which he shortened to Debart. He was a fun teacher and I do believe it was Science that he taught. I also remember enjoying shop class, where I made a lamp. I wish I still had it, it turned out great for a first timer. I don't know if it was just me or if others can see it, but I always thought that Kirk resembled Independence Hall (back of the 100 dollar bill), down the clock. I enjoyed my time at Kirk and just like you, I met a lot of new faces from the other elementary schools, some I am still in touch with today. Thanks for sharing this history of the school. It always peaked my interest and I was sad to hear it was torn down. Blessings to all.
ReplyDelete"Mr Debart" was my principle at Caledonia for one year before moving on to another school district. I got to Caldedonia in the middle of 2nd grade (1984) and he was the principle. The following year Mrs Loeb-Munson took the reigns..
DeleteThank you for your comment. Kirk was a great school and I was sad to see it go.
ReplyDeleteWould love to know the street Kirk was on. I’m trying to remember the streets I must have walked to get to the school from Bender and Superior. I went there from 1972-1974
ReplyDeleteJoyce Lynn, thanks for your comment. Kirk was on Terrace Road. I lived in two different neighborhoods in East Cleveland. When I started 7th grade at Kirk, I lived at the corner of Shaw and Plymouth. In 1953 we moved to Nela View Road. Both houses were one mile from Kirk. I mostly walked; but sometimes I rode my bicycle. It was a great building and if it had been better maintained, it would still be there today.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for responding. I’ve enjoyed reading this. I still remember the names of two of my teachers; Mr. Corlette and Mr. Dornhecker
ReplyDeleteI attended Kirk from 61 through 63, then we moved to Va. so I had a partial day at Shaw only to pick up my records before leaving East Cleveland.
ReplyDeleteI have fond memories (now) of my time in East Cleveland and of Kirk Junior High. We lived on Bardwell Ave. and on Lakefront, both an easy walk to Kirk.
I have to say I will never forget Mr. Corlette, and I wish I could remember the English teacher who let the class decide the grade on oral book reports. The class gave me an A everytime, not because of the content of the report, but because I usually had the class in uproarious laughter due to my eneptness, which I soon used to my advantage.
I remember a lot of my classmates, and wonder what became of them.
Dad was a coal miner and as you probably know, the highway led north for work when the mines shut down. East Cleveland was quite a shock to a kid from the coal fields, and at that time I certainly wanted to go back there. Looking back I now remember what a special place East Cleveland was. We lived for a while on Brackland with never a concern for saftey. We rode our bikes everywhere, played pickup football in vacant lots and at Rozelle, watched double feature movies at Hayden theater. I had no idea at the time just how special that place was. Thanks for this blog, it's good to go back in time sometimes.
Davi Tuggle
Davi: Thanks for your comment. I hope your dad found satisfying work in the Cleveland area. It was very hard for people from coal country when the mines shut down. I hope my blog helped jog a few memories for you. Keep reading and I'll keep writing.
ReplyDeleteSorry for the late reply, dad worked for Euclid, I still have a toy truck from there in my antique cabinet. Health issues forced retirement to Va. or else I may be still living in E. Cleveland
DeleteCan either of you remember which subject Mr. Corlette taught? I thought it was English??
ReplyDeleteJoyce Lynn, I'm sorry to say I don't remember what Mr. Corlette taught at Kirk. Perhaps someone else will post the answer. Keep reading.
ReplyDeleteThanks for that! I thought it was English as well but don’t remember him ever giving out free “A’s”, LOL.
ReplyDeleteThis was so nice to see and read. Iwent to Kirk in the late 80s.. Graduated from. Shaw in 1992. Its wonderful to see history. E.C was still pretty decent in early 90s and 80s.. Memories forever💕
DeleteI think it was English and possibly some History. The free "A" were from I think Mrs. Bolling maybe? Mr. Corlette had us all terrified but looking back, just a strange sense of humor.
DeleteWow! This is wonderful! I graduated from Kirk in June 1981. It was a pleasant experience for me. I only lived 5 minutes from the school. Just recently my childhood home was torn down. It was vacant for many, many years. They are planning to make it into a garden. East Cleveland holds so many memories for me. I moved there when I was in 4 grade and attended Prospect Elementary school and graduated from Shaw High in June 1985. It is so sad to see what East Cleveland has become. It was once a beautiful, vibrant city. Filled with multicultural families with tree lined streets. So many memories... Thanks for starting and maintaining this blog. :)
ReplyDeleteI left Kirk June 91 and graduated Shaw June 95 and I know how much the city had changed in just those 10 years. My family moved to Brunswick in the mid 80s and I went to Caledonia and it was very much still a close knit, everyone knew everyone else type neighborhood. By the time I graduated high school in 95 It was a completely different story :(
DeleteSarah: Thank you for reading my blog and commenting on your life in East Cleveland. I hope to keep sharing my own memories of East Cleveland. I hope you keep reading and commenting.
ReplyDeleteMy home room was 305 Mrs. jump i remember the dean of boys "gully " it was ok to call him that . but Dr. Myers was only called Dr. MYERS . AND THEN THERE WAS MR, CHULICK A MATH TEACHER A TEACHER WHO TOOK NO B.S. FROM NO STUDENT AND AT 81 YEARS OLD I STILL REFUR TO HIM AS MR
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ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment. Based upon your age I expect we were at Kirk and Shaw at about the same time. I was in the class of 1958. What year did you graduate?
As I'm reading your post and you're posting pictures, the one caption made me chuckle. You said maybe you'll see your parent in one of these photos. One is dated June 1953. Well my father was 11 (May 42) and had just moved to Cleveland from West Virginia and my mother was still baking in the oven. She popped out in November :) But fast forward to August 1989 and I walked into W.H. Kirk Middle School for the first time as a student. I had been to the school before, having had older cousins pass through and I would go to football games. As a student however, I was suddenly terrified at the size of it and the sheer amount of people. Before Kirk I had attended Caledonia, growing up on Brunswick Rd. It was one of the smaller schools and I had my core group of friends. NONE of whom were in my unit. In my homeroom in 7th grade I was THE ONLY Caledonia kid.
ReplyDeleteUnlike you sir, I DID play an instrument and was part of Mr. Ricardi's Orchestra. Yes he was still teaching there up until around 1993 before he passed. I remember seeing old photos of old music classes from the 1930's 40' and 50's and 60's he had posted on his wall. And he would point out someone from 1950's photo and show their parent from a 1930's photo and sometimes he could make a connection from child to parent to grandparent. I enjoyed my time at Kirk very much. I made some long lasting friendships there. I hate what has become of East Cleveland now. It's truly an embarrassing eye sore.
I moved away to Chicago in 2002 right as they were tearing down the original school. And it felt like a piece of my childhood was being ripped away. I was back in Cleveland by 2004 and it hurt when I saw them tear down Shaw. I was able to move into my childhood home in 2004 and my oldest son attended Kindergarten and 1st grade and had the same 1st grade teacher his aunt had over 10 years prior. I moved away again, this time to Atlanta, came back for a visit a few years later to see them tearing down Caledonia. That actually made me shed a tear. I did move back to Cleveland one more time in 2013 because my father fell ill and needed help and I moved my much larger family back into my childhood home which by this point needed a lot of work. My 2nd and 3rd oldest sons attended the new Caledonia and I was impressed. 2015 we moved back to Atlanta where I still call home. However I came home to Cleveland to visit in the summer of 2020 (yep height of COVID because I'm a rebel lol ) And I couldn't believe how entire streets are vacant now. Those times I moved back I saw gradual changes. Like the closing of Huron Rd Hospital. A good chunk of Nela Park (GE) closing. But I would have never thought East Cleveland would look like the way it does now. The city I knew and loved and long gone and will most likely never ever return in my or my kids lifetime.
Mark Sheperd: Thanks for your comments. You saw East Cleveland and it's school system at a later period than I. The interesting thing is how you saw the decline of the city and it's schools episodically as you moved away and came back to the city. I also saw those changes; but from the perspective of one who moved away to neighboring cities (Cleveland Heights, Shaker Heights and Beachwood). I also watched the decline through frequent trips to the "old neighborhood". For me the changes were more gradual. Your experience seems to have been more direct and personal. I observed the loss of the old school buildings in local news coverage. That was a great shock and disappointment. The greatest shock to me was the time I saw the vacant lot where my birth home on Shaw Avenue had been. I wrote about that in my December 19, 2019 post: "You can't go home again".
ReplyDeleteMy Childhood home was torn down also last year (1911 Rosemont Rd.). They plan to make a community park and flower garden there from what my sister told me. She was there when it was torn down and got pictures for us. It was really sad to see it gone. But it was truly haunted. An old lady fell down the stairs and died. We heard all the stories, when my parents bought it in 1974. I went to Prospect Elementary, Kirk Jr. High and then Shaw. I graduated from Shaw in 1985. I haven't been back to Cleveland in the last 15+ years. But the pictures of how run down it was, is heart breaking. East Cleveland used to be such a diverse and beautiful place to live. 😥 if you go to this link you can see what the house looked like. it was the yellow house with the overgrown yard! The house was beautiful inside, with beautiful woodwork and it was huge! 🧡https://www.bing.com/maps?q=1911+rosemont+rd%2C+east+cleveland+Ohio&cvid=96ee1d8e1f6a4fb6b0ec5ae54e323a5b&aqs=edge..69i57.11950j0j1&pglt=675&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531
ReplyDeleteSarah Martin White: Thank you for reading and commenting. It looks as if you had the same school experiences as I, only 27 years later. My childhood home was also torn down. I'm afraid we will never see the East Cleveland we knew. Let's keep it alive in our memories.
ReplyDeleteI loved reading your blog about Kirk Jr. High. I remember with fond memories my experiences there during 1957-1960. It was there I had my first taste of pizza at an after-school event. The transition from grade school to being a teenager was a huge event. A new world opened up during those years. Sometimes we had study hall in the cafeteria. I remember some boys would open up the huge windows to let the air in. I think that was a no-no. Also during lunch time kids would bring in magazines of the movie stars and we would catch a glimpse of all the rising stars, many of which were not much older than we were. I brought my lunch to school, but on occasion had a little dish of mashed potatoes and gravy which was a delight to enjoy. I loved home economics classes. Because of these classes I have always enjoyed taking care of my home and spending much time in the kitchen. One thing that I still like to do, believe it or not, is ironing. One time our class took an outing to a grocery store to buy the food we would cook for a breakfast the next day. I walked to school every day. It took quite a while as we lived off Lakefront on E. 131 St. If it rained, we got quite wet. I don't remember ever taking an umbrella to school. Those are very nice memories. I hope someone has some photos of inside the school. The only ones I could find are when the building was demolished. Thank you for sharing a wonderful synopsis of special years on your blog.
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